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Christian, de Carric
b. circa 1308
Birth
Christian, de Carric, was born circa 1308.
Parents
| Father | King Robert I ("the Bruce") Bruce, of Scotland (b. 11 July 1274, d. 7 June 1329) |
Family life
Malcolm ("the Reliable") Fleming, of Biggar, and Christian, de Carric, were married before 1328. His (likely) wife was referred to as Lady Christian Bruce in the 1343 royal accounts, so she must not yet have married. But she was referred to re Morton as Christian Fleming during Robert I's lifetime (ie before 1329).1,2,3,4,5
Children with Malcolm ("the Reliable") Fleming, of Biggar, (b. circa 1310, d. after 1395)
| Son | Sir David ("the Trustworthy") Fleming, of Biggar, Lenzie and Cumbernauld+ (b. circa 1328, d. 14 February 1406) |
| Son | Patrick Fleming, of Bord+ (b. circa 1330, d. 1410) |
Property
Christian, de Carric, possessed Could she be an illegitimate daughter of King Robert I? RMS i app 2 ch 565 implies this. "565. Carte Cristine de Cairnis de terris de Mortoun [confirmationi!* Cristine Flemyng; de terris de Mortoun ad vitam]. " Translation - Charter of Christine de Cairnis of the lands of Mortoun [confirmation of Christine Flemyng of the lands of Mortoun for life. The same charter is annotated (Index B), "Carta to Christian Bruce the kings daughter".It would seem that this may be the king's lifetime dowry for his daughter Christian, which reverted to Annandale after her death and eventually went to 12th Lord of Annandale. This must predate death of Robert I in 1329.
In 1329 Thomas Randolph was 8th Lord of Annandale. He was a nephew of Robert the Bruce.
It is noteworthy that the lands of Morrtoun in Nithsdale were later granted to George de Dunbar, 12th Lord of Annandale 1369-1401 (Robert the Bruce was 6th Lord Annandale). He was son of Patrick Dunbar 9th Earl of Dunbar who had married heiress Agnes Randolph, 11th Lady of Annandale. Note that she lived to 1399 and 22th Lord to 1401, so he could hgave got it on reveersion from her, after her death.
Grose - Morton, a parish of IJpper JSTithsdale, NW Dumfriesshire, containing the post-town of Thoenhill, 1 mile SW of Thornhill station on the Glasgow and Southwestern railway, this being 14J miles NNW of Dumfries and 28 J SW of Cumnock. Containing also CaekonBEIDGE village, the parish is bounded N by Durisdeer, NE by Crawford in Lanarkshire, E and S by Closeburn, and W by Penpont and Durisde
Of several conflicting accounts which are given of the proprietorship of this castle, perhaps the most plausible is that of the Macfarlane MSS. in the Advocates' Library, as quoted by Grose. According to this, the castle, of unknown origin, was held, in the minority of David Bruce, by Thomas Randolph, Earl of Moray ; and, afterwards passing into the possession of that branch of the Douglases who became Earls of Morton, gave them their title, and was allowed by them, in their solicitude about other strengths, to go to ruin.
Cairness - Aberdeenshire
Cairns - Edinburghshire
No Cairns in Annandale. It is highly likely that this is a mis-transcription of Carric. circa 1329 at Annandale in Morton.6,71,3,8,94,10,11,12,913,14,15,16,17
In 1329 Thomas Randolph was 8th Lord of Annandale. He was a nephew of Robert the Bruce.
It is noteworthy that the lands of Morrtoun in Nithsdale were later granted to George de Dunbar, 12th Lord of Annandale 1369-1401 (Robert the Bruce was 6th Lord Annandale). He was son of Patrick Dunbar 9th Earl of Dunbar who had married heiress Agnes Randolph, 11th Lady of Annandale. Note that she lived to 1399 and 22th Lord to 1401, so he could hgave got it on reveersion from her, after her death.
Grose - Morton, a parish of IJpper JSTithsdale, NW Dumfriesshire, containing the post-town of Thoenhill, 1 mile SW of Thornhill station on the Glasgow and Southwestern railway, this being 14J miles NNW of Dumfries and 28 J SW of Cumnock. Containing also CaekonBEIDGE village, the parish is bounded N by Durisdeer, NE by Crawford in Lanarkshire, E and S by Closeburn, and W by Penpont and Durisde
Of several conflicting accounts which are given of the proprietorship of this castle, perhaps the most plausible is that of the Macfarlane MSS. in the Advocates' Library, as quoted by Grose. According to this, the castle, of unknown origin, was held, in the minority of David Bruce, by Thomas Randolph, Earl of Moray ; and, afterwards passing into the possession of that branch of the Douglases who became Earls of Morton, gave them their title, and was allowed by them, in their solicitude about other strengths, to go to ruin.
Cairness - Aberdeenshire
Cairns - Edinburghshire
No Cairns in Annandale. It is highly likely that this is a mis-transcription of Carric. circa 1329 at Annandale in Morton.6,71,3,8,94,10,11,12,913,14,15,16,17
Citations
- [S32] Various contributors, Various contributors, "People of Medieval Scotland," database, Universities of Glasgow and Edinburgh et al, People of Medieval Scotland (https://poms.ac.uk/: accessed ), ., online; 26 November 2023; Malcolm Fleming of Biggar at https://poms.ac.uk/record/person/23327/
- [S32] Various contributors, Various contributors, "People of Medieval Scotland," database, Universities of Glasgow and Edinburgh et al, People of Medieval Scotland (https://poms.ac.uk/: accessed ), ., Document 1/54/302 (RRS, vi, no. 270)
- [S17] Francis J Grant (Ed), Charter Chest of the Earldom of Wigtown, Charter 6
- [S17] Francis J Grant (Ed), Charter Chest of the Earldom of Wigtown, Charter 9
- [S44] Scotland Court of Exchequer, Rotuli scaccarii regum Scotorum, vol 1, p 531
- [S24] William Robertson, An Index of many Records of Charters granted by different Sovereigns of Scotland, p 23, ch 3, Christian Bruce, the King's daughter
- [S43] Scotland Court of Exchequer, Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, vol i, 1306-1424, app 2, ch 565
- [S39] Bruce Webster, Regesta Regum Scottorum, The Acts of David II, King Of Scots 1329-1371, p 302 charter 270
- [S5] William Hunter, Biggar and the House of Fleming, p 478
- [S17] Francis J Grant (Ed), Charter Chest of the Earldom of Wigtown, Charter 8
- [S43] Scotland Court of Exchequer, Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, vol i, 1306-1424, ch 477
- [S83] George Vere Irving, The upper ward of Lanarkshire described and delineated, vol i, p 308
- [S17] Francis J Grant (Ed), Charter Chest of the Earldom of Wigtown, Charters 14
- [S43] Scotland Court of Exchequer, Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, vol i, 1306-1424, app 2, ch 1880
- [S93] Lord Francis Egerton, Liber Cartarium Sancte Crucis, charters 108 and 109, p 109-113
- [S5] William Hunter, Biggar and the House of Fleming, p 480
- [S21] George Crawford, The Peerage of Scotland, p 491-499, Fleming, Earl of Wigtown
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| Last Edited | 7 August 2025 |